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I have a W&S 16 gauge, serial #87,264. Any idea of date of manufacture? Screwgrip, disc set strikers. Thanks.
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W.&C. Scott & Son (Guns in Bold Typeface Webly & Scott) 1910 87000
What do they mean by bold type face ?
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Joe, that's what I was wondering. I saw the series you're talking about but decided it only listed W.& C. Scott guns since there was no bold type.
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Joe, that's what I was wondering. I saw the series you're talking about but decided it only listed W.& C. Scott guns since there was no bold type. Don't know what you're looking at? After the merger in 1897, W & C Scott guns were numbered separately from Webley's (Webley & Scott). In Brown, blocks assigned to W & C Scott are mixed with Webley & Scott's, but are in bold type-face, Webley & Scott blocks are not. Short answer is that the block from 80,000 to 99,999 were used on Webley guns, not W & C Scott. If this helps: Scott guns: 1 to 57,000 (prior to merger) 58,000 to 61,999 (1897-1899) 70,000 to 79,999 101,000 to 109,999 Webley guns: 52,000 to 57,999 (1897-1899) 62,000 to 69,999 80,000 to 99,999 110,000 to 146,000
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I suspect they are looking at the SN chart here on DoubleGunShop under other useful information. The SN chart is there, but the bold Face Type didn't come through, its all just alike. That SN does show up as 1910.
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I'm glad I'm not the only joe that didn't figure that out. 
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Not sure of the source of the 1910 date, but the Scott book agrees with it.
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The substance of the SN chart and "bold face" note is apparently taken from the Whatley & Crawford W&C Scott book (page 74) wich has date ranges of 1897-1971. It covers both WC Scott and Webley & Scott guns showing the numbers assigned en-bloc to the Scott Division in Bold typeface. These correspond to the summary 400NXp gave.
Of course, Scott/Webley is known for it's contradictions and exceptions so the charts are simply a basic guideline. For example it is not uncommon to find "Proprietary" model (A&D type Model 400, etc similar to more modern 700 series) Webley boxlocks with extra bells/whistles and the W&C Scott and sons stamps on them. After all, it was one big manufacturing company after the merger and "parts is parts".
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