Ahhhh, I see what I've been doing wrong...no pointing dog. Years of walked up quail with birds flushing here a yonder. Now I have a flushing dog and it's often still a surprize when a quail flushes. Since often a flush is a surprize, combinations of all swing methods happen. Still, it's the most fun I've had with my clothes on. I've shot a few quail over a pointing dog and I can see where our discussion diverged.