doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Look at another Ed classic.

Those Eds don't care what you think (possibly resent it). Just a pair of crooked guys putting sawdust in the differentials of the shotgun world.

Ed has been contacted and is most non responsive. In fact he resents close examination or questioning of his wares. I would not buy ten dollar bills from this seller for five dollars each.

Problem is that he is a very frequent buyer of guns on the net that have little or no finish left and that go for very little money. He takes these solid guns and does this to them. It is an eye sore and a real shame or sham if you want to get right down to it. Ed, go back to the used car lot.

John,

Thanks for the post. I felt a bit frustrated about Ed's interpretation of gunsmithing techniques but I hoped that someone might send him a message.

C'est la vie.

Duke

Looking at his gunbroker reviews seems he has quite a few A+ ratings. If there are so many pleased dupes then it seems pretty unlikey he'll change his ways.

Those he has listed that haven't been torched, I'm afraid, will be, if they don't move soon!

Those make me sad. I have never seen such a botched mess. It just makes me sad, especially as there is nothing any us can do to stop him. Of course he is laughing at us.

I e-mailed Mr. Ed About the Remington 1894 (gunbroker #62518884)and the other gun's he has butchered. Maby several of us can e-mail him and get his attention.

Is he breaking any laws?
Sure. I wouldn't buy a gun from him but so what?
We're not all collectors.

The question ... "is Mr. Lander breaking any laws?" poses some interesting areas to explore. First, in the ethical sense at least, it is accepted on this BB that he is posing as something he is clearly not when he states he is a "Master Gunsmith". To be a "Master Gunsmith" Mr. Lander would have to be recognized as a member of the Gun Makers Guild and sponsored by a voting Guild member ... it's rather doubtful Mr. Ed qualifies.

It appears he may also be guilty of deceptive advertising practices when he states that he is responsible for a "recent restoration", as the very term means to "return an item back to its original, normal or unimpaired condition". It's obvious Ed "the torch" Lander's work could only be termed a customized abortion by a Master Trailer Park Hack whose previous work could only be seen in the local auto chop shop.

Finally, he is promoting all of his sales as non-negotiable since he is acting as consignee on behalf of another party, the consignor, thereby separating himself from ownership. If, in fact, Ed Lander is owner and not consignor, then he's guilty of false pretense and false advertising {:> bordering on world wide cyberspace fraud & interstate mail fraud.

Perhaps someone could at least file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and brand him as a torch wielding terrorist capable of doing more damage to the gun collecting world than all the laws and anti-gun groups put together.

Gentleman, this torch wielding insanity must be stopped. I will do my part by writing a letter to Santa Claus informing him that Ed has been naughty and not nice in the hope that Ed will not find more propane tanks in his stocking this Christmas.
Happy Holidays

I have emailed him in the past and he feels that his/ed landers "use of low heat and chemicals" duplicate factory original colors better than DT ,Delgreco and Dr Gaddy.

"in my opinion neither one of the alternatives you mention produce colors as close to original as does ed lander"

evidently there are enough guys who have no knowledge of what is correct to keep him doing it and making a profit.The solution is education of what is correct and show newbies to this hobby what they should not be wasteing money on.