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XC - 400 NE noted that the checkering was not "right" for a Brit gun; that it was American. How does proper Brit checkering differ from American? Angle of cutter? Angle between rows and columns? Depth of cut? Sharpness of points? Other? Angle of cutter, and the diamonds are not sharpened, they're left flat. More difficult (and expensive) to do. David T. can give you the technical details better than I can. There's no mistaking the difference. As to the jibe at American gunsmiths, the British, Indian, French, Spanish, South African, Australian etc. all have the ability to screw up good guns. True, but our best seem to be especially bad when it comes to British guns. I've seen exactly the same thing many times from ACGG members.
"Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder."
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XC - care to fill in more details? I'd surely appreciate hearing!
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400 N.E. and Rocketman. This is always more difficult to explain "On Paper"!.... When you are standing at the Workbench, as I had a Client here couple of Wks ago. with this same problem, Chequering had been'Refreshed" with a Power-Tool...Way too deep and the "Tops" dug into his skin when he gripped the Hand .If you are watching my method how to Bring it back to "FT"(I smile when I hear the Gasp of air as I put a "Bastard-Cut" File across the tops of the Pattern) But that takes it back to a flat style, finish the surface of with 400 paper, stain & oil....should make the grip feel"Original" CC/DT
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XC - are cutter angle and diamond angle the same? I understand your method for making "pointed-up" checkering FT. Other than either leaving it FT or restoring FT are there differences? Sorry to be a pest but I want to know.
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I almost wrote"Elton" (Rocketman)! The Cutters I make out of "O1' are Straight sided, on the Inside,giving a "Cut' that is aprox. .020 thou. The 2nd tool is my Carbide 90* I have about 7 or 8 of them,from the 1st one I brought from 'Direon???1986......The old one's are good for The 1st Run-Thru....If I can dig up some of my Technicana Photos I'll ask BLH to post them..CC/DT
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CC I've got a 1925 Scott sidelock I'd like you to look at the checkering on. Stick around I'll get a closeup picture up tomorrow.
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I know of a couple of American smiths that do a good job of it. James Flynn chequered a Mauser .404 for a friend that was exceptionally well done. He also got a bid from Duane Wiebe, who also does an outstanding job of the British style. Both bids came in at the same price. I won't say how much it was, but the chequering alone ran into four digits. Here's a .500 Jeffery that Duane did. Scroll down 3/4s of the page: http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=67752&an=0&page=4#Post67752
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Quoted from the link posted above. First decent checkering I've seen from an American. Good pistol hand shape. The nose of the comb doesn't even look ridiculously thick. Proper length fore-end, although it could be thinned a little. We may finally have an American that can make a decent stock. There are a few hobbiests in this arena that are pretty darn good and have been at it for pretty long time.
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Yeah. Right, and most are British.
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Yeah. Right, and most are British. Agreed, most are British, but nowhere near all of them. Blanket statements generally serve little purpose.
Mike
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