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Hi all, just a follow up to an earlier post. What is the general opinion of these Swede guns? Good, solid any problems to look out for?
What is the opinion on using 2 3/4" Game loads on chambers that have been let out? The age of the gun is around 1913.
Thanks as always!!!
Greg
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gjw - the Lafachaeux (sp) actioned hammerguns, or the A&D or Side Plated hammerless guns ?
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It would be a hammer gun, Model 52.
Thanks!!
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Probably not the best thing to do, but the guns are cheap. The 2 3/4 load in and of themselves are not going to blow the gun up; just shake it loose quicker than the loads it was designed to shoot.
Alot depends on how well it was "Let Out".
With all of the short and low pressure shells today wy not use them ?
I have done the same with a Model 20B Husky I own. I stick with the Winchester Feathers or the Federal Vintagers generally however.
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I'd say they are a value. I think most are Sauer sourced frames with either the Swedish steel, which was held in high regard, furnished to a Suhl or Zella-Mehlis tube maker or the tubes made in Sweden. Swedish Mausers are another example where the Swedish steel was provided for tube material.
I agree with postoak in that why attempt to convert them when the correct cartridges are available and anything else will more than likely shorten the product life. Also the more folks that shoot 65mm cartridges, the more plentiful they will become.
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I've been shoting a "New-To Me" 1948 Husqvarna 12 ga. hammerless Model 610 for the past several months, and been very pleased with it. Mine had/has 12/70 chambers and handles factory 2-3/4" shells just fine. Chokes were F&F, but I had the right barrel opened to IC; and added a rubber recoil pad.
Simpson Ltd. brought in a large group of these SxS HUSKIES early this year, and some were sold by Cabela in the $500 range.
I think mine has a Sauer-built action with swedish barrels.
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Not sure if they're good value or not. Most are pretty old and spare parts are no longer available. One can get post war 6.5lb Model 12 16ga in little used shape for $500. Standard 1oz Remi gameloads can be bought for it for under $6/box. It's nice to know some things havn't changed in last 20 years like the price of field grade Winchester Model 12. 
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One of my favoriate 16X67 hammer doubles is an old Sauer that Husqvarna M52 appears to be a plain Jane copy of. With double underlugs and crossbolt, any normal, lower (10.500 psi or less) pressure 16 gauge ammo should not bother it, ever. Before having a gunsmith lenghten 65 mm chambers to 70 mm, have gunsmith determine (as should happen) that additional 5,0 mm of chamber will still leave plenty of barrel thickness. My Sauer weighs only about 6,2 lbs and my similar weight Husqvarna M48 also acheives this weight with lighter barrels than most Husqvarna hammer doubles, especially the underlever ones and toplever ones with early fluid steel barrels.
I much prefer Husqvarna or Sauer top lever, backaction sidelock hammer doubles to any of their internal hammered doubles for their better balance and handling, as well as easier carry in field. Presently, two such Husqvarna hammer doubles and one Sauer are my regular hunting guns, quail to geese.
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Ah, the 67mm chamber which was a result of the allowable tolerance of the length of the chamber being 2.5mm(65mm, 70mm, 75mm) before reproof. I think it was the 1939 rules that made this stipulation which revolved around the empirical data that revealed that for ever 5mm increase in chamber length a corresponding increase of pressure of 1400 was found.
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Hi all and thanks!! There may be some confussion here. The gun I was talking about already has the chambers let out to 2 3/4". I was wondering if one were to use Federal 1 oz Game loads (pressure is 9633psi)would have any ill effects on the gun? I know that stock damage may happen with a lot of use. But the gun would only be fired now and then.
What I wanted to know is how good are Husky bbls,given good wall thickness?
Thanks again for the responses!
Greg
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