Remington: I don't think any apologies are called for. The Daly's of today, and even the 60's are distinctly different than those that John Mann has been involved with. These are just user guns, and nice ones at that. I think you might find a 28 on a 20 frame for alot less money than that but the baby frames are a rare bird. I'm not sure it's worth that premium myself. The engraving is pretty nice on the 60s Mirokus and I think they are a well-made gun. At tad better than the Citoris in that they have a flat main spring and the Citoris all had coil springs.