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#156636 08/03/09 12:23 AM
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How do you like them? How would you rate their quality against other makers? Thanks, JB

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Hi J.B. Grulla is on of the finest makers in Spain. They have a reputation of quality that's hard to beat. The top end guns are some of the best in the world. They are still a small shop where every gun is hand made and fitted. I think the average production is about 250 guns per year.

The company was formed in 1932 when some craftsman left Victor Sarasqueta to start their own firm. It was known as Union Armera. They made several different models, both BL and SL guns. These guns were not any of the cheap imports that everyone knows about that came over here. Their guns at that time where for the Spanish and european market (plus a few for over here). In 1983 the company was renamed Grulla and began to market their guns world wide.

I have a 12ga Union Armera 215E. It's a wonderful gun with great wood, wonderful engraving weighing in at 6lbs 4 oz. The internal parts are all gold plated. This is a quality gun!

Prices on good quality Spanish gus are on the rise so now is the time to buy. They are not cheap new also, starting out at about $7000 for the 209 (the basic model) and of course going up.

It's hard to rate the Spanish makers, but this is my take on the top quality makers:

1) Arrizabalaga
2) Garbi
3) Grulla
4) Arrieta
5) AyA

Of cousre this varies with the different models.

All I can say is I've never heard or seen a bad Grulla.

Good luck!!

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I'd have to agree with everything Greg said in his thorough response. About all he didn't mention was that Grulla means Crane in Spanish. I have 3 Garbis and 1 Grulla, a 7 lb 11 oz, 12 ga pigeon gun model 216K that I shoot steel through at ducks. It is definitely of equal quality with my Garbis, a fine gun!
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What a minute, I agree with everything Greg said also but Arrieta and AyA in fourth and fifth place...come on!!
I don't agree with that at all!!

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I would not agree about the "list" at all. The big reason is that you are putting the guns in the wrong group.

The Azzizabalaga base gun is about $12,000
The Garbi base is about $9,000

Most of the Arrietas and AYA that you have seen and come to know are the models under $6000. Ie 557, #2, 570, Even the #53
So you are comapring guns that are quite abit under $10,000 to those that start at a much higer price.

I think that if you compaired the guns together at the same price point you would see very few differences


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I had a REALLY nice Grulla 28 bore, that I foolishly let one of our guests talk me out. My only problem with it was, it was choked way too open for the kind of tough roosters we have here. No big deal, just shot most of em twice...A lovely gun!! One of our posters to this board just bought a 16 from M W Reynolds in Denver....Maybe he will share his thoughts with you...

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Hi anyone got a picture of a grulla? I do not think I have ever seen one, the aya people took my grandfather out to their factory in the early 80s he was impressed with the set up they had and he advised them on some things, they were very keen to try and find out his blacking formula but he wasnt telling!

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Just acquired my first one at the Dulles Gun Show a couple of weeks ago. This one is a .410. It has 28" tubes, semi-beavertail forend which is very elegantly done (a good thing on this dimminutive gun) and a stock designed for an adult (15" LOP to checkered butt.) Action is classic H&H with side clips and fairly bold case-colored, floriate engraving. It also has 3" chambers. Fit and finish are superb and it feels like a real gun in the hands. I am impressed. I'd like to say that I did better with it on clays than I did this past weekend, but it was no fault of the gun. Should be just the thing on game farm raised quail.

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"It feels like a real gun," says a lot to me, Joe. Regards, King

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Recent Grullas, Arrietas, and AYA #2s all feel like real guns since the makers started stocking them full length and installing the odd semi-beavertail. When I sold made to order AYA #2s for $2600 or less, we were too naive to understand what a deal they were, so I continued to sell them and never bought one. I had a couple of AYAs from earlier days in my shooting battery and never thought I needed a smallbore. Recently, I bought a 28" .410 AYA #2 and I am smitten. I remember when Warren Page bought a Dakin 20 bore, (now a Grulla 215) and sang its praises in his Field and Stream column. It was highly engraved, under six pounds, and we couldn't get anything else like that weight back in those mid fifties unless it was a worn out Flues or Sterlingworth. Now that the #2 is almost twice the price of a few years ago, and the Grulla and Arrieta even more, they are still a bargain.

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