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Jerry the 3200 was not a bust. They got too expensive to make at the price point Remington was making them for. A very machine time intensive design. But that was before the modern CNC machine ability existed. I bet that the machine cost to make would be less now than then. When I watch my brothers CNC machines operate it makes me think that production work is where these CNC machine really shine and modern gun makers can find a future.
They should bring it back, shave one pound off the weight and they would have a winner. Alas Remington is more interested in importing junk than making guns. Sad end to an American gun maker.
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The 30" TC model is probably the most coveted of Model 32s today. Minor mechanical problems don't matter because Del Grego still works on them. Buy it.
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Darn, I passed on a 32 TC about five four ago for $1500. Not being a trap shooter, I wasn't that interested. The gun had the original finish on the stock, but it was crazing. Prolly should have grabbed it.
As I remember, the 32 is a very sturdy gun, but heavy. Not something I'd want to carry in the field.
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Finnish (now Italian?) Valmet/Tikka is a simplified cousin using the same lockup. Original Valmet field guns aren't too heavy, especially the 16s and 20s (neither is common over here; most are 12s here--what we call a "Valmet Lion") and the Savage-imported ones are Ok, too, if a bit basic. Later models (412,etc) are nicer finished but really heavy in my estimation--for ducks and targets.
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Anyone have a picture of a Petrik he could post?
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Can anyone tell me if there are any legal (ie: copyright) reasons that Remington cannot reproduce the 3200? Similar to the 32, but obviously not a 32, it still was a fine shotgun IMHO.
I would love to get my hands on an original 32.
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I would have to believe the patents are expired by now, unless Remington made some special agreement with Krieghof, which I doubt. Likely it is a cost/toolup issue.
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Originally posted by Judge: I would have to believe the patents are expired by now, unless Remington made some special agreement with Krieghof, which I doubt. Likely it is a cost/toolup issue. Judge, you misread Cowtown. He said Model 3200, not Model 32. Krieghof owns the 32. Remington still owns(so to speak) the 3200.
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Remington had a wonderful gun with the 3200, didn't milk it for all they could have, but the failure of that gun was the fault of the customer and the times, not the maker. A couple of years after Remington gave up the 3200, sporting clays and long heavy guns became the vogue. Actually, 3200 barrels were quite trim. Five years later, screw chokes and 32" barrels were all the rage, as they are today, and a $1200 gun with those features would sell by the boxcar load. Why someone at Remington couldn't figure that out and bring back the 3200 I have no idea. Since Remington saw fit to make getting service on the 3200 nearly impossible, I got rid of all mine and for the last 15 or 20 years I've been very happy with my four (now three) K-32 Krieghoffs. The K guys at Ottsville are quite happy to perform service on their antique shotguns. My favorite competition K-Gun is in its 40th year of competition, is quite obsolete, but they will still work on it and provide parts. What's wrong with Remington?
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Dave, Sorry for being late in a reply....but I been on extended travel. No, the mature gentlemen in question was an Army Colonel in Germany at the Heidelberg Rod and gun club when I was a young Lt. I still have my Model 32 and baby it and have had one set of barrels opened to skeet one and two. Good hunting. Tom
Luck is the residue of good intention and hard work.
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