I started loading in the early 70's. I caught the tail end of Alcan and liked their products. Some one gave me recently a 2 3/4 Kilo keg of AL8. A great heavy load Magnum powder for 10 and 12Ga. I found a 38 Special load with a cast bullet that is both very accurate and very clean with no leading. Also makes about 1050 fps. I watch the shows for Alcan stuff. Some dealers try to sell it as collector items. I'll be buying up AL8 when I see it,I know that.