IronMan.. This forum prides itself in honesty. Those numbers sound like they came from a Whitehouse briefing. I live up near the bridge and been out 6 times and heard one grouse go out. And this is with 2 labs thumpin the brush. As one Buckeye to another, what's the real scoop?? Just kiding. Glad you had a great hunt. Didn't you run into all that rain. I'm building an Ark. Our local population of birds is at rock bottom. You don't have any idea the stress of a Buckeye living amid all the Wolverines and Spartans. All ask why I stay faithful to OSU. They don't understand all males born in Ohio aren't born with nuts, we're born with a pair of "Buckeyes". In a few weeks, U of M is going to get another beating. Randy


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