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Replacement #166774 11/09/09 06:46 PM
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Bonehill,with 2" chopped off the front there is certainly nothing left to lose on this gun. I went on a choke jag for the last three years. I had sold off my open choke guns to buy choked ones that could reach out to those far away targets and they really do crush them. Recently I picked up the only open gun I kept and found I could hit those same targets just fine. No powder but good pieces. I think the tighter chokes helped me shoot better,but I don't think it's all that matters.
Jay Cee,I'm not a fan of jug choking and feel that as a last resort someone should sell the gun and move on,rather than spending money on it,and don't think it's an inconvenience to anyone if I express my opinion. Justin

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Justin I agree, that is precisely what I have done, i.e. express my opinion.
I hope I did not inconvenience you.

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"...it is always advisable to perceive clearly our ignorance."ť Charles Darwin
JayCee #166877 11/10/09 01:06 PM
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Justin and JayCee,

I doubt very much that either of you is "inconveniencing" anybody.

IMO, I think that the only place where justin "goes wrong" is in his apparent assumption that purchasing a shotgun is necessarily a rational act. In my case, at least, this is not always the case. I kept and "customized" my "butchered" gun for very much the same reason why I chose to adopt and medicate a diabetic cat; it "needed me". It has done my black heart good to see both the gun and the cat "blossom" even though, on a purely "practical" basis, I suppose that I might have been money ahead not to keep either of them.

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I have an F. Williams hammergun that someone jug choked .015 in the left barrel. I have no idea when it was done, but I do appreciate it... ;-)


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"U.S.",

Your jug choke job could be quite old. "Retrofit" jug choke jobs date can back to the 1870's.

FWIW about jug chokes, based on my experiences with them:

1. Jug chokes can yield excellent patterns. 85%+ full choke patterns are not uncommon, especially in muzzle loaders.

2. Jug chokes quite often do not seem to require quite as much constriction as other kinds of chokes do. .020" constrictions can yield very dense, even full choke patterns.

3. Jug chokes very often do not "like" loads that feature shotcups. This may be due to the possibility that shotcups may counteract the chokes' "spread 'em and then squeeze 'em" action on shot charges.

4. Jug chokes may also not "like" slug and, especially, round ball loads. This may be due to the fact that the projectile loses some contact with the bore in the "jug" and then may not enter the choke's constriction in a consistent manner.

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