john sr. started out as a out of house colt eng. while living in attleboro ma.he done some work for gartman arms of wrentham ma. at this time. also some private work. he did the john wayne sa colts for the wayne family also.john jr. is about par with his dad. he is in demand [sr.-jr] and considered premium. i watched him transform a m-21 from field gr. to high grade about 25 yrs. ago. i have 5 of srs. guns and 4 knives. regards