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Joe Wood was kind enough to sell me a nice old English Percussion Muzzleloader at the TULSA show. The barrels were in the white thanks to Joe's prior work. I have just finished rebrowning them and thought I would post the picts.They have a lots of steel in these barrels which added to the difficulty.. [img]  [/img] [img]  [/img]
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Truth is, Joe Wood (me) darned near ruined this gun half century ago. Bought it from an elderly gentleman in Slaton, Texas and immediately proceeded to have it made to look NEW by letting a "gunsmith" polish and blue it! Lordy, lordy....the stuff we did to old guns back then would curl the blood in the most indifferent collector. But we didn't know better then (and some still don't). Amazingly, after all the things I did to try to ruin this gun it is still solid as a rock and even the ribs survived my best attempts. Congratulations, Leighton. You're saved it from the grave. Oh, think I paid something like $40 for it in the late 50's and that was a whole lot of money.
John McCain is my war hero.
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Stallones nice pattern on those barrels whats the makers name?
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I know what you mean. I just did a set almost identical to those, including the gold inlays. They were a biotch to do and did not come out as well as yours. Of course the condition was no where near those barrels either.
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Very nice Leighton, they look GREAT! Are you ready to sell me that 28ga? 
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William Barr is the maker and I cannot find anything on him. Anyone have anything or heard of him?The bbls have Birmingham blackpowder proofs.
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Dubbletrubble
They were very difficult. I started with Mark Lee's, then went finally to Greeners formula with CuSO4 in it, using light torch heat in between to finally get colors.Did not use Ferric Chloride
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William Barr is the maker and I cannot find anything on him. Anyone have anything or heard of him?The bbls have Birmingham blackpowder proofs. Here is what I have so far. Will take a deeper look later today. William Barr 1837 - 1859 New York City: Located at 106 Beekman Street until he was succeeded in 1851 by J & R Barr and then in 1852 by W & R Barr. There appear to be several Barr's operating in New York City about this time. Possible family of gunsmiths? Pete
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Leighton sent a close up of those barrels which are not Stub Twist and which I believe are an early Laminated Steel. In the 1910 9th edition of The Gun, W.W. Greener referred to "Old-fashioned laminated steel" as being 75% steel, explained the difficulty in coloring. They might be Stub Damascus or an early Laminated Steel From the 3rd edition of The Gun, 1881 "Laminated steel barrels are twisted, and the rods welded in the same manner as the stub Damascus, but the rods are composed of superior metal containing a larger percentage of steel."  More infro here http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/18063717and http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfg2hmx7_52fs85cfgt and http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfg2hmx7_234chsrtv6s
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