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Grateful for views on stock work needed for my short ten gauge R-16 Darne. I've done almost all the needed for a working gun: choke tubes and a recoil pad to bring length of pull to just under 15 inches. But, on mounting the gun eyes closed, I open them to see the entire length of the barrels. As you might suspect, I'm shooting high. The Darne has a through bolt. What stock work is recommended? Here are two pix from recent bird shooting in Namiba that may help illustrate. Best for the New Year, Tim  
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It's bolt through alright, but from the INSIDE. You have to take a few things out to get to it. PM me if you need help.
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Another Darne with a weird stock. One often sees these with very straight stocks. Mine has less than 2" of drop. Forget about trying to bend it down, no wait, it may be possible but will require removal of the thru bolt threaded in from the front of the stock, hole bored out and doweled, stock bent in a jig that you will have to build special for this stock, new thru bolt fitted (or possibly old one) and finally hope stock stays bent. The new Bruchet Darnes have a standard type thru bolt that's inserted from the butt but I'd expect they would be equally difficult to bend.
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Tim,
Up and down bends aren't really possible with a Darne. I have seen one successful bend where a shooter got the top of the toe out of the way, more of a twist then a bend.
If it was a simple through bolt, more would be possible. But, the bolt has wood screw threads on the exterior, and is held into the wood. That is what complicates the picture.
I did see an odd idea on a Darne gun in Europe one time-the bead was a sphericle globe, perhaps the size of a child's marble, the point being to alter the sight picture, and force a lower hold when keeping the larger bead at about 6:00 on the target. I guess it worked, but, it looked a bit funny, to me. I might feel differently about how it looked had the gun been mine, and I shot it too high, however.
If I were coaching you, I'd like to see your lead hand further out, holding barrels more than wood.
What are the dimensions of the stock on the gun? Further, what are your ideal dimensions, normally?
Best,
Ted
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Hi Tim,
Not a Darne expert at all, but if you are shooting high,
can't you just have the comb reshaped/taken down a bit
to get your eye more on line?
Doesn't seem that complex, but I may be missing something.
-Jim
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You have to admit those are beautiful shotguns!!!
But they look extremely light in overall weight and a 10 gauge???
How much does your R-16 Darne weigh Tim??
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I've heard about this gun before but this is the first time I've seen it. I think you told me it became a ten by some indirect means. Question #1, how do you get ten gauge shells in Nabibia? If you bring them, what do you bring? Shooting advice: shoot at their feet and continue to look at a lot of rib or admit defeat and shave the comb. I dislike a lot of rib and would rather lose sixty pounds or shave the comb. Take your choice, but don't fool with the throughbolt.
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'Float' your target above the barrels when you shoot the Darne; and after you learn that trick, forget about ever being able to hit anything again with your other guns...Geo
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treblig:
I don't know what Tim's weighs, but the one I own weighs seven pounds, three ounces. It's quite pleasant to shoot using the RST 1-1/8 or 1-1/4 ounce loads, which run around 1150 fps.
Tim's is the only other one I've ever seen. I think Ted said once that he knew of two others.
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Steve Bodio has a 10, might be an R10 grade. Mr. John Hill (good friend of Bodios and the Bruchet's) has a spectacular R16 in 10. There is a photo in the 1973 Gun Digest of a Darne 10, decorated with swans on a blued breech, that John Amber either owned, or photographed, in St. Etienne.
Neither Paul or Hervé Bruchet had ever seen a 10 gauge Darne at the time I was last there. A 10 gauge Darne is a very rare gun, in any configuration.
10 gauge guns were catalogued by Fransisque Darne. Not common, either.
Best,
Ted
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