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OWD, yup, Greenwich. Apparently according to books I have read about the loss, Nash described it as a Becker gun when advertising to get it back, so he must have known that Becker's name was on the gun. As Markethunter implies, there are probably many accounts of the loss of the gun in various books describing it. I still doubt that Fox stamped the barrels since there is nothing on the order card about it and it looks like something Becker probably did after the delivery of the gun.
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In at least one of his writings Nash mentions it was insured. If he collected the insurance, the only possible entity with a claim to BoWhoop would be the insurance company. I don't have any legal training other than a tort class in college, but that seems logical. If the insurance company is defunct and the original "finder" of the gun is passed away, the whole legal issue may be moot.
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jOe: How's your 311 collection coming along?
Best Regards, George
To see my guns go to www.mylandco.com Select "SPORTING GUNS " My E-Mail palmettotreasure@aol.com
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Last time I looked in my trunk the Scott collection is doing okay....never owned a 311.
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(Also posted on the Fox site)
There are three types of barrel marking being discused here. The ones on this gun were done with individual letter stamps aligned with the top rib. Notice how they do not follow the taper of the barrels, but do follow the edge of the rib as aligned by placing the stamps against a guide resting against the rib.
Also, note how the letters are equally spaced from the rib and each other (relatively), but some of the stamps/letters are skewed or twisted. Otherwise it is a pretty good job of marking with the cheap but convenient stamping method.
(I hate conjecture, but ... notice how the stamping gets worse as if the stamper was getting tired of finding, placing, aligning and striking all those infernal stamps?)
The two other types of markings are roll dies, with lettering placed around a wheel and applied to the barrel so that only one letter touches the barrel at a time, but also machine letter dies as above.
The third method is hand engraving, as is a small chisel cutting essentially free-hand as are the border cuts at the end of these barrels.
I have heard that Becker was an engraver, and a fine craftsman. This lettering is not engraved, nor is it roll-marked as the factory markings are done. It does show some degree of professional care. Not as nicely as I would hope Becker would do... Find some other stamped Becker barrels to compare.
For future reference, my own Fox is well documented....
Best,
Steve
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I just checked Dr. Andrews book and it appears he first hunted with Nash December 20, 1958, a good ten years after Nash lost the original Bo Whoop.
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According to a friend who knew him, Dr. Andrews was still living when this gun first surfaced and apparently was asked to "verify" it but wouldn't have anything to do with it.
Destry
Out there at the crossroads molding the devil's bullets. - Tom Waits
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Here are the pertinant pages from the great book, Nash Buckingham's Letters to John Bailey -- Page 36 --  Page 37 --  Page 38 -- 
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Researcher - thanks for posting these letters. I haven't got the book and this is pretty cool reading for a Fox nut.
-jmc
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(Also posted on the Fox site)
This lettering is not engraved, nor is it roll-marked as the factory markings are done. It does show some degree of professional care. Not as nicely as I would hope Becker would do... Find some other stamped Becker barrels to compare.
maybe those guys should have stuck to "marking" 311's.
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