I like the traditional looks of the winchester. I like the model I was looking to buy is heavier with a 24" octagon barrel and shotgun style butt. 9.5# vs 7.25#. I have had good luck with my japan citoris, one of the most reliable reasonably priced target guns....
but I don't like the idea of buy Jap with the economy as its. I guess I just have to make a decision.. don't I