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I wasn't aware that there was a smaller frame made for the Parker Repro's than the 00 frame for the 28 ga.

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Nick Sisley wrote an article for Shotgun Sports Magazine several years ago about Parker Reproductions, Mr. Sisley interviewed Jack Skeuse to gather information for the story. Here's a link to this article which is posted on the PGCA album pages, the article is six pages long and contains production figures of the various Parker Repro offerings including the 0000-frame guns, when you're done reading the first page scroll down and click on "Next Picture" to continue reading the article.

http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.php?albumid=99&pictureid=1032

You reminded me that I have a copy of that issue down in the gun safe with the Repro's. I just pulled it out,"several years" must have gone by fast for both of us. My copy is the February 1996 issue. Will be good reading again this evening!

Does anyone know if the 28/410 combos were all on a 0000 frame rather than the 00 frame that we are used to seeing?

Fred, I could be wrong, but I believe they stamped all the .410 bbls 0000 in anticipation of coming out with a dedicated .410 0000 frame (which they never did), but they were fitted to 28 ga 00 frames. At any rate, there weren't any 0000 framed 28 ga guns, so since the Galazan gun has both sets of bbls, it has to be on a 00 frame. The frame size was only stamped on the barrel lump, not on the frame, so they probably only looked at the .410 bbls. The 28 ga bbls will certainly be stamped 00. Still, $13,000 seems to be not a bad price, even for them, as rare as .410/28 ga sets are (DT too!).
Joe

Joe,
I am holding my copy of Shotgun Sports and looking at the article written by Nick Sisley, and I quote,

" The year was 1989. As I understand, the facility was sold. Real estate was going wild in Japan at the time. I believe the gunmaking facility was razed to construct a new building. As for the 100 partially made .410's on the 4/0 frame, Jack Skeuse continues to build them as time and experienced gunsmiths permit."

I have missed/been outbid on a couple 28/410's in auctions. Have never held one.(.410) I have a few 28's and find it hard to believe that a still smaller frame was actually made. Would love to see it.

My friend Tony makes a mistake occasionally. Let see how long it takes for someone to take advantage.

Yes, a smaller frame than the 00 was made by Mr. Skeuse. The 0000 frame was a little wonder gun with breech balls that barely extended beyond the frame width. They seemed to be recessed into the frame sides. It was not like the 000 frame that Parker Brothers used for the .410. From this observation, the 0000 frame may actually be wider than the 000 Parker Brothers frame. I have measured the firing pin spacing on the 0000 frame to compare with other frames, but have not compared the other 0000 dimensions with the 000 or the 00 frame. Some day we will get them all together, but, so far, we haven't done it.

Yep, the article says they made 33 .410s on 0000 frames. Has anyone ever seen one, or heard of anyone owning one? Bill, you saw one? At any rate, Galazan's new listing is surely on a 00 frame.
Joe

A few years ago Herschel Chaddick listed a Parker Repro .410 on a 4/0-frame for sale with a very healthy asking price, it didn't take long before it disappeared from his listings.

I remember that one bamboozler. It was a very nice one with stunning wood. I believe it was listed at $25K or so. And yes, it wasn't there for long.