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Have a friend who says he always gets DELAY, then always goes back three days later to pick up the gun. Never any resolution from NICS.

Gitano, your post indicating "all pre 1898 are non guns" is not correct. A shotgun, built pre 1898, with barrels less than 18" in length, is a controlled weapon. It is an exception that all of us are not aware of, and we had better be careful of that important exception. Steve, delayed NCIC applications today are turned over to supervisors for closer scrutiny. I am one of those applicants. "Further Scrutiny" usually takes about five minutes.

If you would all move to CA, the NICS delay would become a non-issue. That's because we have 10-day wait on everything. Gotta look at the bright side!

not only are pre 98(acutally pre 99)guns subject to the under 18 barrel, but all nfa regs(with a few exceptions). The pre98 shotgun must be over 26"overall as well and pre 98 machineguns fall under nfa act as well. People who cant legally own firearms cannot own pre 98 either...

I'd like a little clarification... If a shotgun was made prior to say 1893 it would be considered a blackpowder shotgun due to the fact that smokless powders weren't invented yet. Blackpowder guns are not subject to the same rules as modern firearms so how is it that an 1893 shotgun with 16" barrels would be considered in violation of NFA rules? You can own a smoothbore black powder pistol with 8" barrel - what's the difference? Is it only muzzleloader vs. breechloader? How can on one hand anything made prior to 1899 be considered an antique and not a gun, yet on the other hand be subject to the national FIREARMS act. Like most things the government is involved with.... very confusing.

I was confused about the 18" rule also. However, it is in print, one of the few exceptions to "Pre 1899 is not a gun."

Let me throw another question into the mix. Here in Georgia all I need to do is show my concealed carry license to the FFL holder and fill out the form to take possession of any legal firearm he has received for me. It is understood that if I have passed investigation and been issued a CCL I would also pass the clearances to purchase a gun. Is this the situation in other states that issue concealed carry licenses? Also, if I wanted to buy a gun over the counter in another state, will that state honor my CCL and not make the call to BATF?

Re Stan's Question out of State Purchase. The transferring FFL must abide by both states laws. Example Long gun Sales over the counter here in Wisconsin. Wis resident upon approval Leaves with the gun , Illinois resident must return Minimum 24 hours later to collect,CA resident must wait 10 days etc. If you from GA came in the shop your CCW would satisfy GA Law, full NICS Check would be required for WIS Law. Quite Frankly it's easier for me to mail it to yr FFL in wherever than try to remain up to date on all 50 states laws. I know this as it was my only error at last ATF audit!!!

Thanks, Hugh. I seem to recall something about neighboring states honoring one anothers' CCL.

I can't wait to hear the answer to that one. Is that why DC isn't a state yet? Are California and Nevada still contiguous?