Larry-Regarding Zutz, who I've read and gotten relaoding recipes from in the past. And grouse...

First, I never use anything smaller than #7-1/2 shot...and am weaning myself on #7's for these birds because I love to eat them. Too much shot ruins the roast. Similarly, tighter chokes will result in similar food, at least from what I experienced grouse hunting in three states. #6 shot is pretty heavy for these thin skinned birds, but does well the little I have used it on Grouse. Mike