Found this old thread on google. Oddly, I had not read it before. Even more odd that Ortolan did not mention that he, I, and others we know own 28 gauge Parkers that came from the William Wagner establishment in Washington. In the early days of Parker promotion of the "new" 28 gauge, Wagner probably ordered a good percentage of the total output of 28 gauge guns from the Parker Brothers. Some Wagner orders for a couple of dozen Parkers of mixed size and configuration included a half dozen or more 28s.