Thanks Rocketman for clearing up the matter of the abrasive stuff made by Remington. Rem Clean has the abrasive, Rem Oil is the lubricant only. The names are similar, guess my old grey matter got them mixed up. Knew it was something like that. For those who have not used the Rem Clean product, it's a pretty good mild bore cleaner, the abrasive seems to be about like a kitchen sink scouring powder, pretty mild. It'll help "polish" out an old shotgun chamber when spun on a drill motor and bore swab.