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I can't tell you the action weights alone but I can give you a target to work with.
CSMC built me a 16 Fox with 26" barrels, checkered butt. The target weight was 5# 13 oz, the actual weight, 5# 9oz.
It is just right for your application and feels like a wand in one hand. Good luck on your project, well worth while.-Dick
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I can't tell you the action weights alone but I can give you a target to work with.
CSMC built me a 16 Fox with 26" barrels, checkered butt. The target weight was 5# 13 oz, the actual weight, 5# 9oz.
It is just right for your application and feels like a wand in one hand. Good luck on your project, well worth while.-Dick Now that would indeed be nice. Have any pictures to share??
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You could have barrels overbored if walls are thick enough and also cut long forcing cones. +1. Some honing could almost certainly be done to reduce barrel weight. Mike, I'm thinking a styrofoam stock would require very light recoiling shells.:) I expect you might be able, if starting with a very light Fox 20 with 26" barrels, to get it under 5#. But I'm thinking you probably would not like the results. It'd be hard to give it good balance (easier to take out weight behind the hinge vs in front) and most people don't shoot guns that light very well.
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Tut, the reason a 16 gauge Fox weighs about the same as a 20 gauge is that the breeches are lighter on the 16. What is preventing you from striking the breeches and breech balls on a 20 gauge until they are the same thickness as the 16? There has to be some weight there. It would also make the gun a bit sleeker in that area. I was probably being a bit optimistic when I said "under 5" but that was what I meant. How about under 5 1/2? With struck barrels, reduced breeches, ribless design, and skeletonized stock, 5 1/2 pounds in a 20 should be no problem.
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Tut, the reason a 16 gauge Fox weighs about the same as a 20 gauge is that the breeches are lighter on the 16. What is preventing you from striking the breeches and breech balls on a 20 gauge until they are the same thickness as the 16? There has to be some weight there. It would also make the gun a bit sleeker in that area. I was probably being a bit optimistic when I said "under 5" but that was what I meant. How about under 5 1/2? With stuck barrels, reduced breeches, ribless design, and skeletonized stock, 5 1/2 pounds in a 20 should be no problem. I think the 5.5 lbs is certainly doable on a 20 gauge SW I have with 26" barrels. It already comes in at 5 lbs 15 oz. I think with action work and if (which I won't) I converted it to english grip. What I'm trying to figure out is how to get my 16 down to 6 lbs with 28" barrels that weight 51 oz. That's the challenge of the day. I'm supposed to be headed to PGS next week to meet with Dan, but I might have to move it back one week. Will know more in the next few days. PS. I've got a 26" 16 Gauge A grade Fox (extractor gun) that letters at 5 lbs 10 oz and this is with the half round stock. Ansley built them light back then for sure.
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"Have any pictures to share??"    Fox De Special, 26", Circassian Exhibition walnut.-Dick
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Be still my beating heart. Nice gun indeed. Almost too purdy to take in the woods, but trust me I would. 
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