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ORAL EFFLUENT #195062 07/09/10 12:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,761 Likes: 99 nh mostly ed good OP Sidelock
OP ed good Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,761 Likes: 99 nh mostly	ABRAHAM LINCOLN WAS OUR MOST DIVISIVE PRESIDENT. Last edited by ed good; 07/11/10 04:16 PM. keep it simple and keep it safe...

Re: ITHACA NID AERIAL GUNNER TRAINER ed good #195080 07/09/10 02:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 682 Bushmaster Sidelock
Bushmaster Sidelock Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 682	How do you know modified and full? Was the wood refinished?

Re: ITHACA NID AERIAL GUNNER TRAINER ed good #195081 07/09/10 02:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 682 Bushmaster Sidelock
Bushmaster Sidelock Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 682	How do you know modified and cylinder? Was the wood refinished?

Re: ITHACA NID AERIAL GUNNER TRAINER ed good #195084 07/09/10 02:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,983 Utah Jim Legg Sidelock
Jim Legg Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,983 Utah	Originally Posted By: ed good RECENTLY ACCEPTED CONSIGNMENT OF 12 GAUGE ITHACA NID THAT LOOKS LIKE A SKEET GUN. ACCORDING TO CONSIGNER IT IS ONE OF A SMALL QUANTITY OF GUNS ORDERED BY THE ARMY AIR FORCE IN 1942 TO TRAIN AERIAL GUNNERS IN THE BASIC SHOOOTING SKILLS REQUIRED TO HIT MOVING TARGETS. HAVE HEARD OF THESE GUNS BEFORE, BUT HAVE NEVER SEEN ANOTHER. ANY INPUT WOULD BE APPRECIATED. SEE GUNBROKER ITEM #178449597 FOR DETAILED DESCRIPTION AND PITCHERS. Why are you shouting? > Jim Legg <

Re: ITHACA NID AERIAL GUNNER TRAINER Jim Legg #195085 07/09/10 02:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,761 Likes: 99 nh mostly ed good OP Sidelock
OP ed good Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,761 Likes: 99 nh mostly	chokes measure mod and cylinder with my handy dandy galazan choke gauge. wood finish looks pretty good. checkering is sharp. wood could have been redone. if so, long ago. Last edited by ed good; 07/10/10 11:23 AM. keep it simple and keep it safe...

Re: ITHACA NID AERIAL GUNNER TRAINER ed good #195087 07/09/10 03:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,292 Utah PA24 Sidelock
PA24 Sidelock Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,292 Utah	The U.S. Government purchased 1,506 LC Smiths for aerial training...purchased through Rochester Ordnance...serial number range 197,321--May 9, 1942.....thru.....202,813--April 9, 1943 Field Grade 1,477 Ideal Grade 20 Wild Foul 9 -------------- Total 1,506 These guns were marked on the barrel flats with USA and USAF (US Army Forces) and a flaming ordnance bomb usually...........and commonly seen for sale at various sites.........(the U.S. Air Force did not come to be until 1948----prior to '48 it was the U.S. Army Air Corps) Doug

Re: ITHACA NID AERIAL GUNNER TRAINER PA24 #195089 07/09/10 03:22 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 592 Likes: 2 Texas jmc Sidelock
jmc Sidelock Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 592 Likes: 2 Texas	From the pictures, the action looks to have been blued. I believe NID's usually left the factory color case hardened but perhaps they finished the military orders differently? Maybe it's just the pictures and not blued at all...

Re: ITHACA NID AERIAL GUNNER TRAINER jmc #195109 07/09/10 04:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,761 Likes: 99 nh mostly ed good OP Sidelock
OP ed good Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,761 Likes: 99 nh mostly	receiver is blued, with no evidence of ever being case colored. keep it simple and keep it safe...

Re: ITHACA NID AERIAL GUNNER TRAINER ed good #195111 07/09/10 04:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,761 Likes: 99 nh mostly ed good OP Sidelock
OP ed good Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,761 Likes: 99 nh mostly	two bits of info. an ithaca collector remembers reading somewhere that the army did order several hundred model 37 pump guns and about 200 nid's for aerial gunner training purposes. also, heard from an ex army flyer trainee who remembers shooting clay birds with one of these at macdill field in florida in 1943! Last edited by ed good; 07/09/10 04:47 PM. keep it simple and keep it safe...

Re: ITHACA NID AERIAL GUNNER TRAINER ed good #195116 07/09/10 05:39 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 879 Au Sable River, MI tudurgs Sidelock
tudurgs Sidelock Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 879 Au Sable River, MI	They also used Remmy M31's. Years ago, I bought a Army surplus stock for my Dad's M31 from SARCO

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