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The U.S. Army Air Corps and the U.S. Navy did procure lots of 12-gauge Skeet Guns for aerial gunnery training during WW-II. However, that gun is not an NID Skeet Gun. It has been rewooded, and has an aftermarket Miller single selective trigger and has 2 (modified) and 4 (full) for the choke marks. An Ithaca NID Skeet Gun, by catalogue definition, would have had a beavertail forearm, ejectors, a factory single trigger and would have been choke marked S and S. While on the early NIDs Ithaca contracted for the Miller's to apply unmarked single selective triggers, by the time that gun was made Ithaca was using their own Howland-designed single triggers, both selective and non-selective. The chokes would measure about .009" and .014", pretty tight by today's skeet choke standards. The NID frames were case colored. That gun is a seriously redone "shooter." Gus procured by the Government would be stamped U.S. somewher on the metal and have the "flaming bomb" stamp nearby and the inspector's cartouche. It could of at one time been a Government gun used for guard purposes or even a gun for Special Services for Servicemen to check out to go hunting with when on leave of liberty.
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From the pix, it looks buffed and reblued as well as redone stock finish. The screw holes and screws in the triggerplate give it away.
The crossed cannon cartouche' is an indication that can't be ignored, but how the gun was used is anyone's guess.
Strange that it doesn't have the usual "Property of U.S. Government" so prevalent on everything from pencils and ballpoint pens to bulldozers.
Walt might be able to find out where it originally delivered to.
Last edited by Chuck H; 07/09/10 06:10 PM.
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in addition to the crossed cannon stamp it also has the ordnance bomb stamp.
Last edited by ed good; 07/10/10 11:35 AM.
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Fatty Forend is not original and does not match the butt stock...not factory....appears the checkering on the forend is also a recent addition.....
The re-blue, the pad and the mid bead are all add on's from JO-da-hunta in Missouri where you got it..........
$591.00 purchase price you paid, not a consignment....why lie ....???....
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How anyone would say "could" have been redone after looking at this gun is amazing !
Some tips for new buyers,
Never buy from anyone who tries to pawn off redone guns and has no clue that they are or more likely tries act like its not !
Never buy from anyone who will not let you,or your agent see the gun hands on.
and most of all;
NEVER BUY FROM A SELLER WHO USES ALL CAPS IN HIS ADD !!!!!!!!!!!
Especially some clown named Ed in NH aka "the torch" !!!
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....The re-blue, the pad and the mid bead are all add on's from JO-da-hunta in Missouri where you got it..........
$591.00 purchase price you paid, not a consignment....why lie ....???....
Way to bust 'em!! It's amazing how many guys try to sell blatantly refinished guns as originals. What is scary is that the hot blued barrels and torch "case hardened" frames are dangerous to fire.
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Feel free to use this system to discuss your doubles, drillings, combination guns, other fine firearms, and related material. The rules are really simple: Stay on the subject matter, keep it clean, and contribute answers when you can!
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keep it simple and keep it safe...
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He means GOOD. 
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i do not discuss my private business relationships in a public forum. suffice to say that the consigner of this item and i have been trading guns and money for quite a while now. our relationship is based on mutual trust and respect, which are two aspects of this thread that are sadly lacking.
Last edited by ed good; 07/10/10 09:11 AM.
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