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Reload 28 ga and save. Reload 12 and 20 for pleasure and selection, light loads, spreaders and the like. I listen to some music and have some peace...shells come out the other end. I also buy 40 flats of promos during pre dove season sales. That covers the bases for all my gun food.
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BTW,
STS 12g was under $5 a box for a long time at Walmart. I think they may still be. Anyone seen the price on them at Wallyworld lately?
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Chuck;
$5.67 and up in NY for a couple months now.......Walmart, Gander Mtn., Dicks, etc.
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Don't forget that Dick's has a $10 off on $50 coupon in the Pa. Game Digest (you can grab as many copies as you want) and the NJ equivalent. That lowers the price even more.
I am a duffer trapshooter, but am serious about birdhunting. I use Remington 16 ga. Gameloads which are even cheaper than Gun Club and cannot notice a difference between them and more expensive shells (e.g. Fiocci).
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My approach is a bit different.
For regular skeet and sporting clay PRACTICE, I shoot the cheapest shells I can find - usually Nobel or Estate. Often I have to settle for 8's, when I prefer 9's for skeet. Not worth my time to reload, and as explained above the cost differences, if any, are a wash.
HOWEVER, when I want "Special Loads" I make them at home; Lighter loads for a 100 year old SxS as an example. If I'm really serious about shooting skeet league, then it is worthwhile to handload "hard 9's." Some hunting loads are hard to find, especially 5's and 7's - so I handload those.
The /discount/cheap loads are fine for practice.
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Several years ago,I read a post by Chuck H about a device that measured pressure as the load went from hammer down to exit the barrel.So, I bought the device-"Pressure Trace". Of course,it had to be connected to a computer.I could have done so by shooting out of an open window(I had 100 acres at the time), but I also bought a laptop. The result was: I checked low pressure commercial loads, factory AA, my own,and Wallyworld promos.I posted my results.The low pressure Armusa were supposed to be 5000 psi and I got 5200 psi. The Wallyworlds were about 8000 psi and so were the AA's.Comments: "Your device is not calibrated".Big deal.I still have the device and no longer the 100 acres.But, I can do it again at a local range. The real question is: Why are promo loads super hot? Do you think that they,the promo people would spend any extra, or just get by? If AA's function an auto, why would one spend extra for powder? Why is hard lead shot better, and harder still, steel shot worse? AS Alice said: "It gets cursior and cursior"(Alice-Through the Looking Glass and Alice- Underground),
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Bill,
the comments about not being calibrated are from those that:
1) are mistaken to some degree, as the individual strain gages come with calibration correction.
2) don't understand the consistancy of Youngs modulus in steels
3) fail to recognize pressure limitations in our guns is simply a broad-brush and indirect approach to stress/strain limitations of a particular gun.
For those that don't know, the device Bill and I have measures strain (stretch) of the steel and the software computes the pressure based on the measurements barrel wallthickness and diameters you input. This would be the same as getting raw strain data (the most accepted way of determining stress)and longhand calculating it using your wallthickness and diameter measurements.
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28 and .410 reloads save a considerable amount of money. Cost is about 1/3 that of good target loads. 12 ga. reloads cost me almost 2/3.
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If your time is worth anything at all why bother with handloading a anything? In my view ammo prices are a cheap as they are ever going to get, period. When you can nail 12 or 20 ga. Rem or Win cheap promo loads in the pre-dove season blowouts for less than $2 a box ($1.29-1.99 depending on the illegal immigrant help payscale), you may as well develop a skill, learn a craft, or get a part time job to make up the price differential to pay for 28s. .410 Rios are so cheap I started buying them in bulk flat deals just to say how much money I saved as I shot them up!(?). I never had any complaints from anything I hit that the shot was too soft or the patterns too thin. So far as 16 ga. goes, good luck - the gauge is still "dying." KBM
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When you can nail 12 or 20 ga. Rem or Win cheap promo loads in the pre-dove season blowouts for less than $2 a box Where? What decade? ($1.29-1.99 depending on the illegal immigrant help payscale), Meaning what, exactly?
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