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Hi folks,
I've got a stuck pin "thingy" on the Jospeh Lang. The other side came out fine. You know it's the type of circular lock that has two holes either side that should be twisted anti-clockwise and the screw threaded plate comes out with the firing pin behind it...anyone know if a tool can be bought...
Got the right side out with a pair of small pin pliers and twisting them...left won't have any of that..
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Call Cole Haugh. 513 518 6722 He made me one for a three hole disc. They are not equal distances apart to be more versatle. Usually all you need is for two pins to fit. The pins sit 3/32" above the collar, but will extend to 9/32" $40 http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/cpg1410/displayimage.php?pid=7131&fullsize=1Give him the distance; center of hole to center. Sometimes, a small enough brass punch inserted on about a 45 degree angle and lightly tapped will loosen it.
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I would spray some Kroil Oil or any penetrating oil, let it sit for a half hour, try again. You can try by putting two drill bits that fit tight in the holes, backwards, and using a screwdriver put it between them and try again. The one I tried, the holes were the size of a 4 penny finishing nail, I think .073.
I know Midway sells one "Firing Pin Disk Remover" center to center pin measurement is .330
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Its called a"disc key" have seen some sold at one time or another ,but best is to make one up if you can .Grind one out of a wide blade screw driver with a big grip or if it can be used in a old style carpenters brace so you can put pressure on it to lessen the chances of it sliping out and damaging the disc . When disc's are in tight they can take a lot of getting out and it is easy ,as they say in the trade ,to "totaly xxxxxx it up."
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Cheers fellas...might try that screwdriver idea first...nice one...thanks for the replies.
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The fact that you had to ask makes me pretty sure that you will "totally xxxx it up" You can make a disc key in a bunch of different ways, an easy way is to take an appropriate size hex nut, drill two holes of the right diameter the right distance apart and use the blunt end of two drill bits to fit into the two holes in the pin bushing. But maybe you don't have a drill press. Nial
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If they're at 90 degrees to each other, could you insert a pin in each and then turn the pins with a pair of pliers?
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Hello T, Let's start off by calling things by their proper names and not "thingies": Bushed Firing Pins - Circular steel fittings, about 1/2 inch in diameter, screwed into the breech face of a gun and through which the firing pins pass. Firing pin bushings allow the convenient replacement of broken firing pins. They also allow the renewal of an older gun where, over the decades, leakage of high-pressure gas from corrosive primers has eroded the breech face around the firing pins. In British: Disk-set strikers. Good ideas above as to how to proceed. Genelang, I suppose you mean at 180º not 90. If indeed the holes were at 90º the bushings would be very difficult to extract when stuck. JC P.S.: Quote above from Hallowell & Co.
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I'm not having much luck. I've got some penetrating oil soaking now to see if that helps. I'm going to talk to a gunsmith mate and see if he can sort a tool for me so that I can move the "thingies".
Cheers T
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Tony: This tool will easily remove the firing pin recess sleeves after soaking in the appropriate oil..... Available at most 'bearing houses'--'good tool outlets' and available in multiple sizes and adjustable..... The good brands (Proto U.S.A.) are hardened and last a long time. Made initially for snap rings on bearing keepers and shafts, etc........ Since you have the action stripped already.....suggest you submerge the action in a jar filled with your choice of oil for at least 24 hours and they should come out easy enough............     Best,
Doug
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