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Problem is, Doug, he said he needs 1 1/2" added. These only add roughly 1/2". I don't know how well they would work with a 1" spacer inside them.
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Stan-- I think it would be easy enough to double the thickness or more by adding an additional rubber pad inside of the same material.......if needed.......I have not tried it, but looks straight forward enough Stan...?... Since he needs only 1.5", seems almost a crime to cut, glue or add anything permanent as Dave mentioned, "none of them appealing"...... Rather than creative artwork, it would probably be cheaper to just restock the gun........ Recoil pads look like an ugly after thought, which is exactly what they are........I've never bought a gun with a recoil pad or one that has been cut, nor have I ever added one......no interest in some past owners cut up gun, to me it means re-stock required........and the prices usually reinforce that opinion....... Recoil pads look tacky and very ghetto......JMO.........to each his own......
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Since gun balance is every bit as important as gun fit, don't forget to calculate how much weight you will be adding with the various stock lengthening options. Walnut is far lighter than solid rubber and the wood can be hollowed out for further weight savings.
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Sorry I haven't got back on---everybody chimed in on this topic--thanks.
The gun is a nice little 16 ga Elsie field grade. The project is a restock to straight grip from the standard pistol grip. The wood on the new (used) stock is nice with good grain so I hate to cover it up with a slip on pad. I couldn't beat the price or the figure on this stock and so far it has fit up easily. If the rest of the project turns out nice the receiver may be off to Turnbull for a recase.
So that is my dilema-decent gun, decent wood and unfortunately a 1/2" short of my normal LOP when a 1" pad is installed. I do find that I am LOP sensative, shooting lowgun at everything clay or feathered I can feel as little as an 1/4" + or -. I can overcome a long length better than too short. I don't have any straight gripped guns at present time but from what I have read they usually require more length than usually used by a shooter. So I may need more that 1 1/2"--If that happens I will make it up with a graft. Thanks again for the ideas-nice to see pictures especially of the splices.
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I'm late to this party, but facing a similar problem with a Parker GHE that is a beautiful gun, but that some boob installed a Morgan adjustable pad on. I'm pretty sure it will wind up with a 1-1/2" Silvers repro pad as the first solution. I hate pads, but I need more LOP on this gun and don't want to mess up the nice original wood and finish. If the gun were rougher or if the grade were higher, I'd consider finding a replacement stock or doing a butt transplant. I also have an Elsie Ideal that came to me with one of RMC's brother's hand-carved wooden butt plates, and he does excellent work. Not sure how I would feel about a similar solution if I needed 1-1/2", though.
For a Field Grade Elsie that's getting mostly refinished/restored, I think I'd go with the Silvers and see if I could live with it.
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My option would be the full 1 1/2" walnut extension with a butt plate. I don't like recoil pads. This is on a 16 ga L.C. Smith Specialty Gr., that someone cut the LOP to 12 3/4"  I faux the grain with markers. I did not dress up the end of the original cut stock. It is held on by two wood screws only, in case I want to try and match the two pieces better. There are several 1-1/2" recoil pads available. A good 1" pad and a 1/2" black spacer will also work well. Both require proper fitting to the butt. Either would be far more attractive than JDW's picture, IMO.
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Jim, That is your opinion. Far more attrative to you would be an ugly recoil pad! It is a shame that some jerk would cut a stock to put a recoil pad on in the first place.
If I like recoil pads I could have added a Silvers repro, would have added about 6 ozs to weight.
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Put me in the recoil pad camp. They...well, they reduce felt recoil. And they look just fine, to me at least. I'm not one to kowtow to tradition if it interferes with my shooting pleasure.
BTW, I don't wear breeks and tassels, either.
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Jim, That is your opinion. Far more attrative to you would be an ugly recoil pad! It is a shame that some jerk would cut a stock to put a recoil pad on in the first place.
If I like recoil pads I could have added a Silvers repro, would have added about 6 ozs to weight. I stated in my post that it was just my opinion. I find it interesting that you have no trouble calling anyone who likes recoil pads jerks. This, of course, is just YOUR opinion, and an offensive one, at that. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, proven by the fact that you are apparently proud of the job you posted as a picture of good taste(yours, only). A properly installed good quality recoil pad looks far better than your very visible grafting job. JMO, again but I'll stick to it.
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Guys we’re talking about a field grade LC Smith here. A great gun for sure but worth all this trouble?
I’ve seen LC Smith field grades painted camo with a paint brush, one with its forearm attached by duck tape, the green stuff, which in my humble opinion matched the original blueing quite well, all I’m saying is this ain’t worth the trouble just stick something on it and go to work!!!
That is what an LC Smith was built to do, not look pretty!!
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Jim, That is your opinion. Far more attrative to you would be an ugly recoil pad! It is a shame that some jerk would cut a stock to put a recoil pad on in the first place.
If I like recoil pads I could have added a Silvers repro, would have added about 6 ozs to weight. I stated in my post that it was just my opinion. I find it interesting that you have no trouble calling anyone who likes recoil pads jerks. This, of course, is just YOUR opinion, and an offensive one, at that. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, proven by the fact that you are apparently proud of the job you posted as a picture of good taste(yours, only). A properly installed good quality recoil pad looks far better than your very visible grafting job. JMO, again but I'll stick to it. Jim I'm sure I'm not the only one tired of reading your continual tirades on here....could you please get your medication adjusted. Thanks, jOe 
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