My apologies, Tom. Your comment about confidence is spot-on. Any good target shooter will learn, or have learned, what he needs to know about the limitations of cylinder. Field shooting doesn't ordinarily provide that sort of volume. So, up here at least, I debate this issue more with hunters of grouse/WC covers. Well, a cyl 12 and factory trap loads is one thing - a cyl 28 with 3/4 oz #7.5s is another.

Sam