Ithaca5E, I don't know about your assessment of Winchester's 1930's success with the 21. I have Hudson's Sporting Good and Sloan's ads from the mid thirties where they were offering Model 21s in all gauges for $39.50. That was at least $20 less than retail, so getting rid of the new gun couldn't have been easy. Winchester may have built a ton of Model 21s early on, but apparently they gave them away rather than selling them.