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I can see where you are coming from but as far a I know there is no connection. Some odd trade marks come about but the reason is never really registered. I have a Fuller shotgun and the trade mark is the engraving of an old tree stump that appears on the breech end of the rib. Lagopus.....
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Dont forget in the days this was engraved the engraver had probobly never seen a Tiger other than a stuffed one or a poor picture .As to why? Why not.
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I just collected a Frederick T. Baker hammer gun of 1875 (it is on the guard in Roman numerals) and this has a trade FTB trademark on the under bar and in the same consignment I found a 1906 EJ Churchill with the EJC trade mark. Greener used an elephant, W&C Scott used a tower, the practice was not uncommon and maybe Lisle just liked tigers.
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Roy,,, I recall the Syrup family was Lyle('s)..not Lisle Haven/t seen a Tin since I came over here Loved Golden Syrup on buttered toast franc
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Franc Looking at a jar of Lyle`s golden syrup as we speak, that can be bought locally. I remember the tins, Mum used to bake treacle pies,never tried it on toast though. Take Care Pedler
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Lyles Golden Syrup & Treacle is still readily available in the supermarkets.Hardly used in the house hold today due to lack of marketing, but as Pedler said in our childhood syrup and treacle butties were a staple diet. Black treacle on toast used to be yummie. I think I will buy a tin today. Lagopus. I think Geoffrey Boothroyd mentions trade stamps in one of his books? Seem to remember a mention about Lisle's Tiger somewhere before, I think it is linked to the Indian Colonials?
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Waiting to be mustered home to Canada, my father campaigned (in his RCAF uniform) for a member of the Lyle family---Sir Thomas?--- running for Parliament in 1945. Against military and civil law, of course, but who was going to arrest a three-year POW stumping for Churchill and one of the gallant company of The Great Escape?
My father was earlier arrested by the Royal Marines with George Harsh, the American security chief for the Escape who had spent 12 years on a Georgia chain gang and pardoned joined the RCAF, for trying to steal a BOAC Short Sunderland flying boat to get home. Their testimony of spending too much time in the wet canteen got their release.
What a generation of men!
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Salopian, I recall Geoffrey Boothroyd having a Lisle over/under shotgun so may have mentioned it in connection with that. I'll have a look through his book on O/U's again but I would have remembered if he had solved the tiger mystery. I am off to Derby library in the near future to do some research on that and another gun that turned up marked Derby Gun & Cartridge Co., Derwent St. Derby. Just need the spare time now. Thanks. Lagopus.....
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in terms of quality it looks remarkably similar to army & navy piece featured in "in the tradition of empire a british officer's game gun" by col. william h. jordan.
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Most, but by no means all, Army & Navy guns were made by Webley & Scott. The Lisle will have been made somewhere in Birmingham and bought in for finishing. Lagopus.....
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