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Hello gentlemen:
Here in Mexico city it is not common to find "English shotguns" for sale. Some guy is selling a Woodfield & C" London 12 ga boxlock sxs shotgun and I am interested in buying it if it worth the price. The seller says is in great shape, but I do not have more information.
I never own an english shotgun and it seems it is a good oportunity to have one.
Do you know about the maker? the quality? The asking price is about $1,560 USD. but I think I can negotiate a little.
Any advise will be welcomed.
Best,
Jose M. Fernandez
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Post some pictures of the gun.....might save you some pesos
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Hello: This is the link for the local forum ad. You can see 3 photos but bad quality. I was asking if someone knows about the "Woodfield & Co" trademark; it is really English? I hope you can see the pictures, but I am not sure if the link will work. http://www.enlamira.com.mx/foros/showthread.php?t=68744Best,
Jose M. Fernandez
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Do someone know about the name "Woodfield & Co. London"? It is really an English made shotgun or perhaps it was made in Europe and then traded in England?
I hope someone who knows could help me to know if I will buy an English shotgun or a "fake" with an English name.
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Jose M. Fernandez
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Jose,
Membership is required to view photos on the "enlamira.com" site.
Copy the photos and post them in a E-mail, my E-mail address is in my profile.
Good Shooting T.C. The Green Isle
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Good Shooting T.C. The Green Isle
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She ain't looking too English to me if she is she's been ruffed up real good by an imitation gunsmith.
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I'd say that she is definitely English.
The action flats show what appear to be pre-1904 Birmingham view marks and clearly show Anson & Deeleys Patent (patent owned by Westley Richards) use number 4848.
It looks like both wood and metal have been refinished.
If does not appear to have been nitro proofed in England.
It would sure help to have sharp close-up photos of the barrel flats.
Last edited by FlyChamps; 09/06/10 06:32 PM.
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Quick look at eh photos and a little speculation. Looks refinished to me. Looks to be of Birmingham origin. The name is most likely a iron monger ( USA hardware store) who retailed the gun.
Quick value starting point. Brand value is level three (BV3, values at half as much as BV1 and 2/3 as much as BV2). Original quality grade appears to be about OQ6 (second grade boxlock ejector). Current condition level is restored (CC5). BV3-OQ5-CC5 = $1336. However, it is very difficult to asses the restoration quality. If you "ding" it down to CC6, the value is $984. So far, I think the ask is high.
Hope some other opinions come is from people with time to really look over the photos.
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Might be just the pictures but the receiver looks polished and possibly blued. All that engine turning doesn't look too kosher either.
From what I see I wouldn't be interested at any price.
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