Piper, I never said my way was the only way ,I stated that in my opinion it is still the best way. It may not be perfect in every case and some time you come across old guns with "tight "chambers that will not take a plug.But talking in general, based on over 40years of building and rebuilding double guns,I felt my comments may have some value to the debate.Take it or leave it, that like the method you use to measure anything , is your choice . In the course of my work I use a Chubb bore gauge ,a split ball gauge for chokes and a plug gauges for chambers. I dont see a problem as they are easy to use and as accurate as nessesary both in the sales shop or in the workshop when boreing, rechambering and when rebuilding barrels. There are always exeptions ,but thats life.