Thanks for the advice. I reload spreaders myself for my 16ga. zoli and Laurona, as they are both choked full and fuller. He is just starting to hunt and has already invested a thousand or so in a pump gun and gear, and has expressed that reloading is not an option at this time. So 1oz. Kent upland and rem game loads would be his realistic store bought option. I have, and will lend him my Laurona (and spreader shells), so he is not in any hurry.

Don.

Life is too short to have a 'hate on' for so many things or people. Isn't it?