You're right, Brian, and it's been that way since Hector was a pup. Old school competence is crawling around in a wolf skin trying to scare a buffalo to death. That was all about bladder control, breathing, and vision quest. Saying you can get along with just a little 4x Weaver is sort of like saying "Oh, this little old ray gun; it's just something I keep around to miss with so my head won't get too big for my hat." As for chock tubs, they do have their uses and ic/ic is about as useful as any.

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