Originally Posted By: 2-piper

Also there is nothing you can apply that equally fits both the 3/4oz 28ga & the 1oz 12ga loads. If these two loads balance one another then so does the 7/8oz 20 & the 1oz 16.


That's not your quote, Miller?

You also chopped off the end of Brister's quote . . . you know, the "and other factors" part. Since the "other factors" are not clearly defined, then you can't apply math . . . because you don't know what other factors are involved. (Sorry, neither do I . . . and Brister's dead, so unless you can find a medium that can ask him, we're SOL on that score.)

So, first of all . . . back to YOUR quote: Brister's sentence does NOT say that the "two loads balance one another". Nor does he say, anywhere, that those loads are the very best there are. What he does say--or actually quotes the Remington guy in saying, and seems to agree with--is that "the 28 gauge is so highly efficient for the shot load it throws" (89% pattern on a target moving 40 mph at 35 yards is pretty darned efficient, I'd say!); and that "the 12-gauge pigeon load of 3 1/4 drams of powder and 1 1/4 ounces of shot will pattern beautifully in almost any barrel". Well, I've patterned that load in a few different barrels with different chokes, and it has always looked very good in comparison to other loads through the same barrels (talking pattern % here). And a couple other now-deceased writers named Hill and McIntosh both selected it as their favorite pheasant load. No "magic" involved, Miller . . . just a performance-based evaluation rather than one based on nothing but math. Personally, I'd expect to find such evaluations in a book that has "Art" as well as "Science" in the title.

Last edited by L. Brown; 01/19/11 08:43 PM.