Adam- thanks for posting that video- I am really looking forward to this, especially after a brutal winter - my house is now surrounded by glare ice and I have to wear crampons if I want to go out.

I really do not understand their objection to 12 ga because as you say they can be loaded pretty light.

I wonder if they are concerned about getting hunters who throw up a barrage of ack-ack indiscriminately?

The Orvis recommendation carries a lot of weight with me after experiencing Libby's in Maine. This autumn will be my fifth year there.