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Sidelock
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Sidelock
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With all the interest show about all things Proof related,has the time come for the American Government to pass an American Proof Act?It would mean of course that 80% of the guns in the US would be out of or unproofed and would be subject to these laws .All new guns would need to be individually proofed , all second hand guns would need to be proofed prior to sale or re sale.Shotguns pistols and rifles. Set up proof Houses in most States run under statute by the US Standards Agency{sorry I dont know there proper title}and proof to international CIP standards. Its a great idea ,a great business opportunity.
And you would not like it at all.
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Please keep the US Government out of our gun business.
Walter c. Snyder
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That would be impossible to do here in this country because concerning a great number of the guns in this country the government has no idea who bought them or their current owner.
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Oh boy, now there's an idea! Obama could set up the proof house under the BATF&E with his new anti-gun guy in charge. Might be unconstitutional to confiscate all the old guns, but at least there'd be no new ones escaping 'proof'. Might even be ok to require proof of all the old ones too; be a shame if none of'em 'passed'...Geo
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Sidelock
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Gunman, the great majority of American weapons are (were) built to handle loads far in excess of international CIP standards. That's why they are so heavy and often clunky. Even 100 year old shotguns sent to England for proof usually sail through without a hitch. But more important, let's do what Walt said! The govt has no business with its camel nose under my tent.
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The two English Proof Houses were set up by and are still run by the gun trade. It was done to prevent poor quality stuff getting out and damaging the reputation of the legitimate trade. It was set up by an Act of Parliament but any changes are instigated by the Guardians of the Proof House who are Trade Members. One of the World's first, if not the first, consumer protection scheme. Lagopus.....
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Todayss gun safety is already controlled by a "proof system". It is called tort law. If a manufacturer screws up and markets an unsafe product they get sued!! Bob Jurewicz
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Manufacturers here in the US do proof their guns. The loads used are far higher in pressure than any European proof house uses.
I don't fear US manufactured firearms, but, I fear my government.
Best, Ted
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Sorry Gunman, but we still prefer to be free of the King. While we like reading about your proof system, it is best enjoyed as long as it stays on your side of the Atlantic. The jack booted thugs of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Division of our Treasury department are already beyond where we need them.
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Last edited by Drew Hause; 02/22/11 06:27 PM.
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