I am ready to upgrade to a mid level spanish gun (4-6k) and have looked a every dealer on this sites gun rack. I am interested in Grulla, Arrieta and possible AYA. How much less than the asking price do these guns go out of the shop for? I don't want to look like a jerk offering $500 less than the asking price on a $4500 gun. I am fortunate that my stock measurements are close to standard. 1 1/2 2 1/2 15 lop so I don't have to get a bespoke gun and I can pick my wood.