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Fellows,It appears I hit a gold mine with info on Scott guns.Many thanks for all the information. I also forgot to mention the strangest thing about the circa 1875 Premier hammer;it has no engraving except the rib address and Scott on the sideplates,but it is undoubtedly a Premier. I have heard that sometimes pigeon shooters ordered the top grades this way,as they wanted the best materials with no frills,but what a shame. Marcus
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enjoyed reading all your post re scott.
re 700,701,702 webleys i have always understood 700 basic
then 702 upgraded followed by top 701 further upgrade.i have no proof other than info from many gunsmiths and others connected
to the trade in the uk.i have also seen a catalogue circa 1967
which has the guns as 700 then 702 then 701
this is again,just my understanding and i would be delighted with a definitive answer.i do have great difficulty
telling 702/701 apart when i have handled them. Bill, Very little surprises me. I have no doubt about the catalog. I have seen catalogs from other makers that listed models they never made. I have seen guns that never appear in the catalogs. I am sure we have some one here who can help shed some light. Pete
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pete M
thanks for reply,always learning(usually from mistakes).
any info re webley is welcome.
apologies to others for posting off topic
cheers
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OK .Webley 700,Round headed stock, basic engraving,checkering tended to be on the large side, stud and pin in later models [1965 on] in the forend.
702 ,square back to action, stock finished with panels but no drop points,greater coverage with engraving better quality wood ,diamond and pin in the forend ,pointed guard tang, smaller checkering
701, as 702 plus . Full coverage engraving "best"wood finished with drop points, forend wood with raised panels [often referred to as spaniels ears]fine checkering,with checkered butt end, gold oval rather than silver, top lever filed up relived and action filed up with beaded fences , better overall finish . Hand polished barrels rather the bobbed .More time being allowed to polish inside work and to fit up during the build.
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Knew there was something else ,701 also had a beaded trigger guard bow.
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Ah this just gives me an excuse to post one of my favorites A SLE made in 1898! I have never been sure what grade it may be but it's the only left handed one I've ever seen. Jim 
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12g Premier hammergun:  Lets see your guns! OWD
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Pete, thanks for a wonderful post. We think one of my forbears was a stocker for Scotts.
As a little boy I knew the old gun quarter and many of the "works" within it. I also saw the destruction of the area when the Ring Road was built and even now I can weep for what once was.
Eug
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Thank you, very kind. Mine's a pint
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FAO gunman
thanks for info re 700s.
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702 ,square back to action, stock finished with panels but no drop points,greater coverage with engraving better quality wood ,diamond and pin in the forend ,pointed guard tang, smaller checkering
I don't know whether all 702's had drop points, but the Crawford and Whatley book on Scotts shows a photo of one (p. 72) with drop points. The 712/720/728's, which were basically 702's made for the American market and with the last 2 digits designating the gauge, did have drop points. (I owned a 720, which also had factory 3" chambers--and weighed about 5 3/4 pounds. Needless to say, I never tried any 3" shells in it!)
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