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THat last post only makes sense if you take the second part as the quote from L.Brown. Sorry.
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"Thank you for your email.
We do provide a historical research service for a charge of 30.00 but having checked our records on your shotgun, the record is in fact blank and so would be unable to provide you with any further information.
However I can confirm that your gun was finished in 1967. Your shotgun was one of a number of Boxlock Ejector's that Holland & Holland commissioned to be built through the Birmingham gun trade as it was cheaper to produce and thus cheaper to retail. When the guns were nearing completion they were sent to the Holland & Holland factory for final test shooting, regulating and finishing. Therefore since they were not true Holland & Holland shotguns built entirely at the factory we engraved "H&H" on the sideplates and not the full "Holland & Holland" name and the model name; "Shot & Regulated" engraved on the barrels.
As mentioned these were made through the Birmingham gun trade with a large number, as you correctly pointed out, being made by Webley & Scott and coincidentally your gun was actually made at the Webley & Scott factory.
I hope this helps.
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Andrew Ambrose
For Holland & Holland "
Dont believe it .those guns were finished and went to Hollands .What, if any thing, they did to to the after that is unknown.
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About 6 mths before they stopped making shotguns I visited the W&S factory and Pat Whattley took us round. He was a mine of information and I think if you had cut him in half he would have had W&S running right through him like a stick of rock. It was a great day out and so sad when they closed as there was so much craftsmanship tied up in their workforce to produce such great guns. I guess it was the same story that affliced the whole of the British gun trade - they survived longer than most.
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"Thank you for your email.
We do provide a historical research service for a charge of 30.00 but having checked our records on your shotgun, the record is in fact blank and so would be unable to provide you with any further information.
However I can confirm that your gun was finished in 1967. Your shotgun was one of a number of Boxlock Ejector's that Holland & Holland commissioned to be built through the Birmingham gun trade as it was cheaper to produce and thus cheaper to retail. When the guns were nearing completion they were sent to the Holland & Holland factory for final test shooting, regulating and finishing. Therefore since they were not true Holland & Holland shotguns built entirely at the factory we engraved "H&H" on the sideplates and not the full "Holland & Holland" name and the model name; "Shot & Regulated" engraved on the barrels.
As mentioned these were made through the Birmingham gun trade with a large number, as you correctly pointed out, being made by Webley & Scott and coincidentally your gun was actually made at the Webley & Scott factory.
I hope this helps.
Best regards,
Andrew Ambrose
For Holland & Holland "
Dont believe it .those guns were finished and went to Hollands .What, if any thing, they did to to the after that is unknown.
I guess you could email Andrew.Ambrose@hollandandholland.com and ask him if he knows what he is talking about. I would think he does, but who knows. Here is the serial number on the shotgun in question 37471.
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For some reason,I cannot cut&paste photos from photo file to doublegun forum reply. Marcus
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Sandpaper
To put photos on this forum you first need to upload them to a web host - i use photobucket - it is simple and free.
Once on photobucket place the cursor over the photo and you get a drop down menu - click on the lowest option (IMG) and it should say 'copied'
Paste this link into your thread. Job done.
Best to leave a line between text and photos and between photos.
Best of luck.
John
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Thanks,I'll try reloading pictures. Marcus
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My appologies Marcus - I see I called you Sandpaper - early monday morning - i am sure you understand - any problems give me a PM.
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Gunman,The 702 has drop points,engraving covering is more than the 700 but much less and not so fine as the 701.Fore end profile is same as the 701.
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No apology needed;I understand. By the way,I assume you are the John Foster who specializes in barrel sleeving.If so,you sleeved and rejointed an old hammer Scott Premier with no engraving of mine a couple of years ago and you did a wonderful job on it;it balances perfectly and I have really enjoyed turning it loose on mourning doves. Regards, Marcus
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