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Marty, If someone will volunteer to post pictures, I'll mail him prints to scan. Thanks for your interest.
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Not a conversion picture but one of the sight, if in fact accurately so: Lyman 48C, sold out of Montana last week for $270... (but not to me!!). Is this the described "later (but earlier than the 1940/50's) offered version with larger target-style knobs and 1/3-minute clicks," with a shorter slide and curved bottom?  
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IMO this sight has standard (for the time) knobs and probably has the standard 1/2-minute clicks. Impossible to tell about the clicks without close examination. I'll try to see if I have some examples of the early target-style knobs for a photo later today. This sight would be proper for an early 1922, but IMO was overpriced by $100-$150 or so.....
A few decades ago Sarco was selling some 48Cs that had their apertures cut down to make a notch, apparently for machine gunnery practice. I have the parts necessary to convert back to the original aperture if anyone needs them. Regards, Joe
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Here's a pic of some of the variations. On the left the 2 different styles of vertical adjustment screws are shown while on the right are contrasted 2 of the different-styled knobs.  Please note that the vertical adjustment screws were originally left-hand with rather coarse thread and also had their bottom ends made captive to the back of the slide while the later screws are finer-threaded in the right-hand direction and are not captive. I don't know the exact transition date but 'assume' it's ~1945 or so. The horizontal screws underwent a similar transition. The knobs are both prewar and it's easy to see which is the taller 'target' configuration. Sorry I don't have a target horizontal knob to show, but it's slightly thicker than the standard one with more-pronounced knurls. HTH, regards, Joe
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Why did Lyman make the very long slides for the 48? And why install one on a hunting rifle? I have a middle length slide on my 1922. I shoot it regularly with target ammo at 200 yards and only use about 1/3 to 1/2 of the slide. Does a 30-06 target rifle with iron sights shot at very long ranges need to use the very long slide?
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Might, if low velocity ammo is being used.
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My assumption was that the Lyman folks wanted to offer the same capabilities as the issue military version, with a sight graduated out to ridiculous ranges. Regards, Joe
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Stroebel's Old Gunsights book talks of three "variations" of the Lyman 48. I've a No. 48 WJS, 3rd variation currently listed in ebay.
BTW; This is the Centennial year for the sight first introduced July 11, 1911. Let's throw a party!! A long one, or a short, radiused variation for those of us that don't want to alter the stock? I'll bring the vodka & lemonade...
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I'm a little jammed up here and do not have any time for a few days but there is more to this 48 stuff and well worth dissecting it. Prototype 48  
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There may be only 3 MAJOR variations but there are a few more minor but yet significant ones as well. Ones I've observed:
1 - super-long slide (175?) with folding peep and screw-in disc 2 - long slide (125?) with folding peep and screw-in disc 3 - long slide with screw-in disc but no folding peep 4 - long slide with target knobs and 1/3-minute clicks
all above are prewar 'full-block' with captive elevation screws
5 - long slide(60), 1/4-min clicks, full-block non-captive screw, prewar style knobs 6 - short slide(60 with flat bottom), 1/2-block, target knobs 7 - short slide as above with hunter/stayset knobs
In addition to the above I believe that Michael owns at least 2 versions of the #1 super-long slide model and I also seem to remember having owned more than one version of #s 2 & 3 above myself, with very minor differences. These remarks apply only to the 48S and 48C, 48 sights for other models may differ. Regards, Joe
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