Have 3 of them all ont 28 ga. frames, 2 SxSs and an O/U. Love them for grouse and woodcock hunting and clay shooting. Some years back I bought alot of bismuth on closeouts, so do use it for ducks over decoys to 25 yds. And yes they are not 20s but there is niche for them. Heck I even shoot a 24 ga.