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Mark, I have a steel barreled grade-2 16ga extractor Smith on the small R-frame and love it. I paid a little less than $1,500 for it a few years ago, but assuming good condition on the gun you're looking at, I believe the price is about right...Geo
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Thank you George. It's a lively little gun, and even though I'm a Lefever guy, it definitely feels lighter than 16ga xx small frame Lefevers I've owned and held. I'll take another good look at it, and see if it's The One. 
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I'm with George on this one; provided the gun remains in good condition and barrels are not cut, $1500 on a graded Smith small-bore ejector is a great buy.
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Not to hijack the thread but this information may be pertinent. I know of a 2E Smith 16 gauge gun, s/n 2109xx, shipped in March 1909. Straight grip with Hunter One trigger that works perfectly, screw slots and wood inletting show the gun was probably never apart. Anyway, a couple of questions on these early Smiths.
1. The gun has the so called pre-1905 firing pin bushings, but the letter shows it's a 1909 gun. Any thoughts from the experts?
2. Gun has the second stye barrel stop setup. The Houchins book makes it sound like this was only used, and rarely, on extractor guns. This gun I write about is an ejector. Am I reading the book correctly?
Thanks for any/all inputs. Silvers
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Frank,
(1) I own the identical gun, but dated 1907, and it also has bushed firing pins. In fact all my pre-'13 guns on R frames have the same pins. Likewise all my pre-13 "FW" small gauge Smiths do not have bushings, and date from 1907 to 1912.
(2) My 1907 2E has the second style stop, also.
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I have a 1914 2E with the second style joint check, with chain Damascus barrels. Letter states this gun is 350 entries above the latest pre-13 graded guns and is one of the last appearng in the ledgers.
Also has mirror images of a single quail on both sides with no cirlc around them.
David
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This 2E has a prancing fox on its lockplates.
NO, wait, I'm confusing the 2E with an XE Fox. Hahahaha.
Actually the 2E 16 gauge I described here above has a single quail with no circles, on each lockplate. Like the one shown in the 1892-1900 section, bottom picture on page 183 of Houchins. Frank
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Frank: Houchins corrected the Second Type Barrel Stop description on p. 395 to include AE guns also. It may have been used ONLY on AE guns.
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I had an OE 20 gauge Smith with bushed firing pins on unmarked feather weight frame.Was told very few 20s had bushed pins. Bobby
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