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Originally Posted By: treblig1958
GLS has the original box with his Fox, that's great stuff!!!


She's no "safe serf" (ineligible for royalty status being a "lowly" Sterly):

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I saw plenty of well used NIDs that are loose as a goose. Never a Fox. Arm chair pundits should look at how the Ithaca locking bolt makes point contact with the barerl extention. EZ to get wear and loosness. Compare with fuller camming contact of Fox locking bolt. Too bad Ithaca went out of doubled barrel gun business. By now they would have had one after another, after another, new and improved models. Same as they did before the NID. Fox design was done up in 1906 and had few changes and nothing major u8ntil last one was made 40 some years later. Joe, give it a break on that one pix of a cracked fox receiver thats floating around inter net. No one seems to know the details and what it was shot with,or if pix was staged. One example doesn't make a case closed story. Those jumping on this post please read title. Its about Sterlingwroth and Trojan. No one asked for comparison with Ithacas and Elzies.

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Originally Posted By: Walter C. Snyder
Or you could forgo the cult guns and consider one of these:
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Walt, that's a beauty. Gauge and year?
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"No one asked for comparison with Ithacas and Elzies."

Then why did you make the comment you did.?

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I've saw more than one pic.

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Originally Posted By: GLS
Originally Posted By: treblig1958
GLS has the original box with his Fox, that's great stuff!!!


She's no "safe serf" (ineligible for royalty status being a "lowly" Sterly):


GLS, those are the skinniest woodcock I ever saw! Nice Sterlingworth though...Geo

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Some nice guns discussed here, but some of you guys seem to forget or ignore the OP's original statement:

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Shopping for an inexpensive American SXS of good quality and value to shoot.
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A 90% Sterly with the original box is not going to be inexpensive. A 95% NID is not going to be inexpensive. Lots of the Parker complexity is a non-issue with a Trojan, because you don't have to deal with single triggers or ejectors (unless you find a freak). Any lockup or looseness problems are not likely to be an issue in your lifetime if you start with a good, tight gun. The aesthetics of a Sterly as the basis for a custom gun are certainly relevant to some of you, but not to the OP. I'll stick with my original advice to buy the best gun you can find in your price range, regardless of who made it.

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I own both and they both have strong and weak points. To me a sterlinworth looks and handles better but isn't built as well. The fit, finish, safety and trigger are better on a trojan but a sterlingworth looks better. The parker has rebounding hammers the sterlingworth doesnt, and some guns have problems with the firing pins dragging in the primers. If I were buying ONE it would be a early sterlingworth and polish up the trigger and safety if needed.

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Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
GLS, those are the skinniest woodcock I ever saw! Nice Sterlingworth though...Geo

The reason they are so skinny is because those aren't Owl Snipe--just plain ole snipe.

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"Arm chair pundits should look at how the Ithaca locking bolt makes point contact with the barerl extention. EZ to get wear and loosness. Compare with fuller camming contact of Fox locking bolt"

I don't know what boldt cams you've been looking at, so I got out of my armchair. I just measured the depths of the cam hooks on my Sterly, Elsie and NID; all 16 ga.. The Sterly and Elsie measured 9/32"; the NID 10/32.

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