I've reloaded at least 1000 of the HS shells for my wife's Sig-Rizzini. Not sure if they are the "new" longer shell but they just about close completely using Win HS wads, 3/4 Oz, and Longshot on my MEC press. Recently, I have not been able to find Winchester wads locally or mail order. Just got some Claybuster clones to try. I hope they work as I just bought a Beretta 686 S in 28 ga.