I think Treb's got it. Big slugs+close range=big holes. RE: Handguns, on one of my trips to Alaska, I was Dude packing a S&W 45 long colt, My bear gun . My guide said "Lets try something, jump up and down while wearing your hip boots 50 times.Then I'll throw a tennis ball (Bears brain size) at you in a gravel parking lot so it bounces a lot. See how many times you hit it. Best stick that handgun in your mouth and go easy" Good analogy