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Maybe some lubricant as they are tough to convince to motion. Sometimes the device is seen on weapons with multi-tubesets but changing would seem to be slow. The bar of the "T" in the circular hole is supposed to drop in the well so maybe a small amount of downward force there while the top of the "T" will be perpendicular to the tubeset. But when the "T" bar comes into battery, it is a snap and a pretty tight fit.
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pwm:
Nice bit of info. Yeah, the round could have been developed between 1900 & 1910 and may have paralled the Gründig version?
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rse yes, amazing paralell to the 10,75x52 R Gründig, in any case a full power nitro cartridge you will find in a strong break action only. Harald wolf had told me that the Springer Double Rifle he had in his hands was made from Francotte. I dont had such a DR in my hands till now but with a little bit more time I can probably find the gentleman the custum ammo was made for. started a research on nitroexpress once to learn more about this cartridge, someone may know it http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=147203&an=0&page=0#Post147203"I've just miked the barrels and I'm getting just under 11mm at the bore and just under 12mm at the chamber end." sounds more like a 11,15x52R LK to me, 11mm barrel diameter is small but we will see what sluging and chamber casting will show
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LK, that has been a hot topic as of late. Finding another J. Springer/A. Francotte would be just lovely, specifically if it has the unique wood to tubeset latch. Are we sure of the chamber length, 52mm?
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Raimey:
I sprayed some Gunscrubber around the tee piece and then tried tapping on the round end with a piece of dowel and a hammer. It finally opened!! I think the main problem was congealed grease. It's probably been a long while since this gun was last maintained.
I really appreciate the help and information I'm getting here. After I do a chamber cast I'd like to try and round up some ammunition. This gun is too nice not to shoot. I'll take and post some pictures as soon as I can.
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Yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, pleasure us with some images of the marks and of the device itself. Like I said, the device just doesn't like to conform to motion.
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I wonder if Franz Denk of Wien peddled clocks also or was it possibly his father: http://www.artnet.com/artwork/426055449/...aterndluhr.htmlIt must have been his father, or relative, who just may have been a master clock maker( Bürgerlicher Uhrmacher? ) from 1795 to the mid 1820s. Most of the clocks with Franz Denk's name are in the 1820s. An interesting stamp atop this Franz Denk of Wien peddled example: "FRANZ DENK IN WIEN K. u. K. .... LITÄR SCHIESSSTÄTTE"(his shooting grounds or school???) http://www.dorotheum.com/en/auction-deta...-denk-wien.htmlKind Regards, Raimey rse
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...LITÄR ... MILITÄR? so maybe Military Shooting Range?
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Jani:
I'm afraid I don't understand your post.
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Jani:
I assume they can read German and the phrase to be: "LITÄR SCHIESSSTÄTTE" as listed. Maybe Franz Denk had a firing range?? But I had not known that Franz Denk to receive a royal warrant, nor have I seem him listed yet.
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Geno: I noticed that credit was attributed to you for the early Auguste Francotte images of a double. Do you know if it was from the mid 1860s? There doesn't appear to be a serial number nor a patent number associated with the forend attachment, unless the T handle is really worn. I wonder who Auguste Francotte's frame source or frame filer might have been. Did not the use of rebounding hammers commence circa 1867? http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/art...chasse%20gb.htm  Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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