UPDATE
I bought a bunch
they showed up (well most of them, but I still have faith) and the wife and I went shooting some sporting clays today and tested them out.
I shot the best I have in YEARS.

now, It might be the shells, it might be something else, but who knows? grin

But they do seem to shoot quite well, low recoil (even the wife approved on her 12ga) but as someone noted they are dirty.

I like 'em.