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Master Gunsmith Ed "the torch" Landers/Good is alive and well........"A Joy to Handle and Burn".......

Another one ruined for all time.........

Geo will be along in a minute to say how he likes it....!...



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Originally Posted By: PA24
Geo will be along in a minute to say how he likes it....!...


Sure is colorful!...Geo

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"CASE COLORS HAVE BEEN SAFELY RESTORED TO NEAR ORIGINAL BRIGHT APPEARANCE."

Safety restored, I guess he wore asbestos gloves.
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Originally Posted By: PA24
Master Gunsmith Ed "the torch" Landers/Good is alive and well........"A Joy to Handle and Burn".......

Another one ruined for all time.........

Geo will be along in a minute to say how he likes it....!...



I'm just curious and perhaps this has been answered in previous posts but is there any way to undo torching once done. Would not careful annealing and the proper case hardening correct the damage?


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here we go again......

Quality case coloring should provide cosmetic enhancement without endangering gun integrity or shooter safety....Be careful if you are contemplating sending your prized shotgun's receiver to a high heat bone charcoal mechanic.. He is going heat it up to around 1600 degrees F... Make sure that you get it in writing, that if the receiver warps in the heating and tempering process or that if it cracks after firing, then the mechanic will assume full financial responsibility for the destruction of your gun and/or your personal injury.

A low, controlled heat process, combined with specific chemicals is the safest way to recolor a shotgun receiver. So long as the heat is kept low and controlled, the original receiver metallurgy and heat treatment is not changed. No harm is done to the gun nor is there any potential for danger to the shooter, as a result of the re coloring process.

I myself do not do any gun work of any kind. I have neither the skill nor the patience. Instead, i utilize the services of Ed Lander, for most of my repair and enhancement needs. Old Ed has over 60 years of experience in the gunsmithing trade and does fine work at a fair price. He has recolored literally hundreds if not thousands of shotguns receivers using his low controlled heat, chemical process.

Ed Lander has developed his techniques over many years of trial and error. He even has different chemical formulas that simulate different factory colors for different guns, depending on when they were made. He may use a potters kiln to precisely control heat. What i do know, is that his top priorities in all of his work are shooter safety and customer satisfaction.


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At least this torch job is covered by his "Return Policy", DEFECTIVE

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Originally Posted By: canvasback
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Master Gunsmith Ed "the torch" Landers/Good is alive and well........"A Joy to Handle and Burn".......

Another one ruined for all time.........

Geo will be along in a minute to say how he likes it....!...



I'm just curious and perhaps this has been answered in previous posts but is there any way to undo torching once done. Would not careful annealing and the proper case hardening correct the damage?


My understanding of proper case coloring is it's basically an extremely thin coating on the surface. I know for a fact it's delicate and just about any abrasive including metal cleaners we all use like Simichrome can damage or remove it. I don't know how deep this "coloration" would go if you used extremely high heat with a blowtorch but perhaps others on the fomum can address this.
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amazing...you guys apparently do not comprehend what you read....so here is the heart of it again....

A low, controlled heat process, combined with specific chemicals is the safest way to recolor a shotgun receiver. So long as the heat is kept low and controlled, the original receiver metallurgy and heat treatment is not changed. No harm is done to the gun nor is there any potential for danger to the shooter, as a result of the re coloring process.


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I would anneal, file/polish, pickup the engraving, then have the gun casehardenend again. The frame appears to have rounded engraving from a powered wire wheel.

Casehardening is not typically up to 1600F but rather around 1425-1450F

Those colors on the gun in the pictures are a result of temperatures in the range of 540-640F and have tempered/softened the thin casehardened layer.

Me? I wouldn't take the gun if it were free. It'd be more work that the product would be worth.

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