Can you find a gun more reasonable in price than a NID that gives you modern material and stock dimensions that are near current factory norms? A decent shooter in 12 can often be found for less than $500.00, a 16 or 20 for just a few hundred more. Ithaca are the value gun in todays market. Not the most stylish to some but they are good basic guns that you can feed fairly stiff loads in without worry about missing fingers or split wood or barrels. Find a graded gun and they are a real nice looking gun for the money.